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Notable People, James Lasley, Location in Turkey’s Town

19 Wednesday Nov 2025

Posted by Jeffrey Sauls in Local History

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Cherokee County Alabama History, cherokee-indians, Etowah County Alabama History, northeast-alabama-history, trail-of-tears, turkeytown

Not what I think, not what I believe, not what I know. It is what I can prove.

Where is this plantation? Where did James Lasley live?

1937 Etowah County, Alabama map. University of Alabama Historic Maps of Alabama. Present-day Spring Avenue is missing from this map. The stream that crosses diagonally across the NE 1/4 of section 35 is the stream that parallels today’s Spring Avenue. The new 4-lane US 411 is not on this map. This shows the patent purchasers of the property in 1840. I noted the people who stated they were on the property in 1838. (The time of the forced removal, Trail of Tears). Info on the purchasers comes from the Bureau of Land Management website for Etowah County, Alabama. Names of note: William Lay, Josiah Harper, and John W. Croft. Note the name Murrycross.

The names of William Lay and Josiah Harper should stand out on the above mapping of Lasley’s property. If you remember from last post on James Lasley. They were accused by James Lasley of stealing from him. See the following clip from James Lasley’s 1842 claim where he names these two white men.

This confirms the location of James Lasley’s plantation. Josiah Harper was appointed Justice of the Peace in the newly formed Cherokee County Alabama, in 1836. (Alabama U. S. Civil Appointments 1819-1939, Ancestry.com) He, along with William Lay, homesteaded the property and filed for purchase through U. S. Patent Office in 1838.1 This is the present-day Croft Ferry area. John W. Croft, with preemption in 1838 purchased 159 acres on both sides of the Coosa River, which includes the ferry2. The original survey on the BLM website shows the road leading to this ferry. On the East side, it is labeled as Smith Ferry Road.

August 24, 1838, James Lasley filed a Claim where he states that; “he had a ferry across the Coosa River possibly taken by David Smith.3

His house is located on the ferry road on the west side of the Coosa River. On the above map the ferry road travels straight then makes a left turn to travel to the river landing. The house was on the right side of the road at the left turn. This also falls within the one mile from the “cove” property discussed in the last post. Metal detectors found a Spanish button from the mid-1740s on the lot where the old homestead was located. James Lasley is the only known person to trade with the Spanish living on this property. He would have a garment from the time period.

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James Lasley did not mention the Croft family or George Crone. They must be friends with James Lasley. They are mentioned on miscellaneous papers in good favor of James Lasley. William, David, and John W. Croft are brothers. Review the above map of property owners. Reminder you can click on the image to make it larger.

Other Confirmation

A letter by H. S. Gold to Gen. D. B. Brinsmade. He went to visit his sister in New Echota, but also traveled to Creek Path (Guntersville, AL). They traveled from Vann’s Valley which is Caves Springs, Georgia. This researcher has driven from Caves Springs to Croft Ferry on as much of the route that still exists. It is 35 miles. Elias Boudinot is Buck Watie, the Editor of the Cherokee Phoenix newspaper.

Transcript of letter written by Herman S. Gold on 22 May, 1830 to Gen. D. B. Brinsmade. A letter found in a vault in Calhoun. Georgia in 1960.

James Lasley is listed in the Henderson roll 1835 (Cherokee Census). On page 82 as in Turkey town in the transcribed copy;

“Six Cherokee, 1 fullblood, 2 halfbreeds, 2 quadroons (quarter blood Indian), 2 slaves, intermarraiage with white race. This family owned a mill and a ferryboat. One farmer, 2 farms, 1 reader of English, one weaver, 1 spinster.”5

As James Lasley stated in one of his Claims (previously posted), he was removed from his property in June 1838. James Lasley is listed in the Benge Detachment in the removal from Fort Payne, with 3 persons in the family. James and Elizabeth’s children also went West. Margaret, also known as Peggy, was married to Gideon Coats. She went with her children from Andrew Vann’s previous marriage. It is listed that she went by “her on account”, 3 persons in the family. William went “on his on accord”, seven in the family. Auley, who was married to Jack Griffin with four in the family was in the Bell Detachment.6  

Blount Plantation

How did the name of this location come to be known as the Blount Plantation?

William Lay purchased 660 extra acres in 1848. Lasley accused him of stealing a portion of his property. This purchase brought Lay’s total to 887 acres. On 18 January 1854, he sold the property to brothers Joseph G. Blount and David E. Blount.7 24 May 1854 David Blount sold his share to Joseph. Joseph G. Blount moved to Alabama from Georgia ca. 1854. He would move back-in-forth from Alabama to Dekalb County, Georgia, and Gadsden, Alabama. Blount is on the 1860 US Census listed in First District, Cherokee County, Alabama, P.O. King’s Hill (present-day Slackland, Alabama). This would be on this homestead. The 1860 US Census lists Joseph G. Blount, 27 years old, Male, Farmer occupation. Value of real estate $16,000.00, personal property value $50,000.00. Wife Maria L. (Freeman), 23 years old, Female, Daughter; Anne T., 2 years old, Female. Living next door is Henry M. Cox whose occupation is “Overseer”,8 (He is the overseer for the plantation). Mr. Blount owned 45 slaves per the 1860 slave schedule in Cherokee County, Alabama. In 1870 he is listed as living in Gadsden City, P.O. Gadsden, 37 years old, Mechanic occupation, Wife Maria L, 32 years old, keeping house as occupation, son Joseph A., 3 years old (Gus). In 1880 Blount is living in DeKalb County, Georgia, on the census at District 531, Joseph G. Blount, 47 years old, Farmer occupation, wife Maria, 42 years old, keeping house occupation, son Augustus, 14 years old. Blount is on the 1900 Census in Turkeytown, Alabama. Joseph G Blount is 67 years old and has a Farmer occupation. His wife, Martha F., is 46 years old (Joseph lists this as his 2nd marriage since his first wife Maria, died Feb 1897). Son Joseph A., 33 years old, is a lawyer by occupation. Joseph Augustus (Gus) Blount married on 24 November 1900. This took place in New Orleans. He married Marie Lily Tremonlet (daughter of Henry Tremonlet).  

John W. Croft lived just south of this plantation. On the Croft property in May of 1863, Colonel Abel Streight, US Army, and General N. B. Forrest (CSA, Cavalry) would come to a head-to-head fight. It is at this location that Colonel Gilbert of the 73rd Indiana US Regiment was killed. Four other Union soldiers also died. All of their bodies were exhumed. Hathaway taken to his home town in Indiana. The other Union soldiers taken to the Military Cemetery in Marietta, Georgia. In the Official Record of the War of Rebellion this location is called the “Blount Plantation”.9

Oak Hill

Oak Hill Post Office. John W. Croft purchases the property North and South of the ferry. His two brothers will be a part of these purchases.  In 1838, John W. Croft purchased 159 acres. This land was in NW ¼ of section 1 of Township 11 South, Range 7 East. This land is on both sides of the Coosa River and includes the ferry. See the map above. The original survey on the BLM website shows the road leading to this ferry on the East side. It is labeled as Smith Ferry Road. John W. Croft purchased 159 acres in section 2. It was the NE 1/4. This land is on the West side of Coosa River. He purchased Josiah Harper’s 159 acres in section 35 north of him. He also owned the SW ¼ of section 35, which brings John W. Croft’s total to right at 636 acres. His brothers William B. and David Croft purchased the NW ¼ and the SW ¼ of section 2.10 After the formation of Etowah County in 1868, a Post Office was established at Mr. John H. Croft’s home (son of John W. Croft) on May 24th, 1875. This post office was named after the farm Oak Hill because of the oak trees on the hill behind it. 

Oak Hill application, 1897, NARA, Washington, DC. image 711, Record Group 75, Records of the Post Office Department, Series: Report of Sites Locations. https://catalog.archives.gov/id/68180758?objectPage=717

Murrycross.

Charles Philip Mooney is the Murrycross Post Office Postmaster, 1898. (United States Postal records found online at ancestry.com.) The name of Murrycross or Murry Cross came from Joseph Augustus (Gus) Blount, son of Joseph G. Blount. He named a new Post Office for his friend Father Daniel Murray of the Mobile Archdiocese. Father Murray served in the Birmingham Alabama Diocese. 

In the history of St James’ Catholic Church of Gadsden 1957 titled; History of St. James Parish, by Flounce A. Burke. page one; 
 
“Thirty years ago, on October 3, 1927 St. James Church was dedicated” . . . Will I Martin was the only person living who knew first hand of the early days of the Catholic Church in Gadsden, . . .

Joseph Augustus (Gus) Blount was educated at Kirkwood Military Institute in Atlanta, and Mt. St. Mary’s College, a Catholic institution at Emmitsburg, Md. He graduated in 1886. He took up the study of law with Judge James Aiken, of Gadsden, in 1888. He was admitted to the bar in 1890. 

Continued from the history of St James Church; 

They invited a Catholic priest, Father Murray from Mobile, to come to the district. He stayed in their home. A year later yellow fever broke out . . .and the story, “BEING A CATHOLIC PRIEST, FATHER MURRY VISITED ALL THE HOMES WHERE THERE WERE VICTIMS OF THE DREAD SCOURGE.” He contracted the disease and died, in 1903. Not long after the death of Father Murray, Gus Blount was given permission to select a name for the newly established post office. He wanted it named for the hero priest, Father Murray. The name was sent to Washington, and through a typographical error, the name was spelled “Murrycross”. It was impossible to have it changed, so until this day it is called Murrycross.” 11

Mr. Martin is incorrect about the timeline. Newspaper reports and the U. S. Postal Records confirm the story and correct the timeline. Rev. Father Daniel Murray, serving in Birmingham, served the Catholic Church in Gadsden during the year 1896.12  He died of yellow fever on 24 September 1897 in Mobile, Alabama. He had moved to Montgomery, Alabama, to be the assistant at St. Peter’s Church. He left the same position after three years and three months at St. Paul’s Church in Birmingham, Alabama. While on a temporary assignment in Mobile, he contracted yellow fever and died on 24 September 1897.  He was serving the congregation at St. Vincent’s Church in Eufaula, Alabama.13

Murrycross and its Post Office were established on 10 November 1897. Oak Hill’s name changed. The Postmaster is Charles Philip Mooney Jr., “Philip”. The 1910 census of Etowah County lists Charles P. (Philip) Mooney Jr. living between Joseph G. Blount and James A. Penny (which would lead you to believe this is the old Oak Hill PO). James A. Penny becomes the Postmaster in 1905 of Murrycross PO. James A. Penny is married to John H. Croft’s widow (Mary E. Hughes Croft). Mary Elizabeth is the daughter of James A. Hughes Jr. and his wife Parolee Whorton. The Whortons and Hughes families are notable people in Turkey’s Town. Their stories to come later.

US Postmasters Records Etowah County, Alabama, Ancestry.com
Murrycross application, 1897, NARA, Washington, DC. image 693, Record Group 75, Records of the Post Office Department, Series: Report of Sites Locations. https://catalog.archives.gov/id/68180758?objectPage=693

Conclusion

James Lasley is a notable person of Turkey’s Town. His plantation became multiple family farms after his forced removal. Today, the community is referred to as Murrycross/Croft Ferry. North of James Lasley is Richard Ratliff Sr. He, too, is a notable person of Turkey’s Town. His story has connections to General Andrew Jackson and David Crockett. This area, before James Lasley moved to it was called Ratliff’s Valley.

Google Earth photo with locations added for James Lasley’s plantation.
  1. From the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), General Land Records online website, the two white men filed pre-emption in 1838. Josiah Harper purchased, section 35, Township 10 S, Range 7 E; 159 acres, SW ¼. William Lay in section 36, Township 10 S, Range 7 E, the NW ¼ 159 acres. ↩︎
  2. From the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), General Land Records online website, NW ¼ of section 1 of Township 11 S, Range 7 E, this is ↩︎
  3. ” Indian Pioneer Papers, University of Oklahoma, Western History Collection, Norman Ok, Volume 105, Grant Forman Interview #1425. Registration of Claims of Cherokee Indians against the U. S., within the State of Alabama. Claim #19. The original Claim Book is in Oklahoma Historical Society Microfilm CHN80 in Section X (Cherokee-Federal Relations). Page 246, Ferries, Coosa River #7 Township 11 South, Rang 7 East, Section unknown (probably 1 and 2)” Lasley Ferry/ Smith’s Ferry/ Croft’s Ferry by Mike Wren recorded in “Alabama Collection Camps, Forts, Emigrating Depots and Travel Routes Used During the Cherokee Removal of 1838-1839” ↩︎
  4. Spanish button found on the property in 2023 by relic hunters. Other period items were found on the property. Interview by the author ↩︎
  5. https://www.okhistory.org/research/digital/foremantrans/foreman.sup14.pdf Henderson Roll Vol 14, page 82, Oklahoma Historical Society ↩︎
  6. RG 217, records of the Accounting Officers of the Department of the Treasury, E 525, settled Indian Accounts and Claims, 1794-1894, Box 379, Account 6432, National Archives, copies from the Michael Wren collection. ↩︎
  7. Bureau of Land Management (BLM), General Land Records online website. ↩︎
  8. 1860 US Census listed in First District Cherokee County Alabama P.O. King’s Hill ↩︎
  9. Etowah County Historic Plat records online https://etowahcounty.org/historic-plats/, Bureau of Land Management (BLM), General Land Records online website. ↩︎
  10. Personal copy of the History of the Saint James Catholic Church, Gadsden, Alabama. ↩︎
  11. The Montgomery Advertiser, Montgomery, Alabama, 15 March 1896, Sunday, Page 3, December 1896, Page 3, The Birmingham News, Birmingham, Alabama 19 January 1897, Tuesday, page 1, Newspaper.com ↩︎
  12. Birmingham News, Birmingham, Alabama, 19 January 1897, Tuesday, page 1, Newspaper.com, The Eufaula Daily Times, Eufaula, Alabama, 24 September 1897, Friday, Page 4 and The Herald-Journal, Bessemer, Alabama, 30 September 1897, Thursday, Page 4, Newspaper.com ↩︎

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Notable People, James Lasley in Turkey’s Town

04 Tuesday Nov 2025

Posted by Jeffrey Sauls in Local History

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Plantation Claim

James Lasley’s complex or Plantation in Turkey’s Town is quite large. His story is told through Cherokee Claims stored in the National Archives. These records mention James Lasley, who operated a ferry in Turkey’s town. He had on the property a large complex of houses and a cotton gin/mill with a cotton house. There were cribs, a blacksmith shop, and a trading post. He also had slave quarters, stables, several acres of fenced river bottoms, and “uplands.” Extra structures included sheds, a barn, a smokehouse, and a hen house. There was a potato house, a corn crib, and a sheep house. Wagon shelters, a hog house, and apple, pear, plum, and peach trees were also there. He has 250 acres of various sizes of fields, from 50 acres to ½ acre lots, all fenced separately. 

There were 5 houses of various sizes, all single stories, made of logs with floors, shutters, doors, and locks. They all had wooden chimneys with rock-backed fireplaces and hearths. The house sizes were 16’x20’ largest to 15’x15’ smallest. There was a block of cabins 36’x13’ with two chimneys, three doors, finished floors, and shutters. The total valuation of this property was listed at $8,223.15 in 1842, with today’s inflation added (2025) this would be valued at $324,885.

Cotton Gin and Mill

Notable is the description of the cotton gin in the claim. It is stated to be;

One cotton gin House 18’ – 18’ 2 st (stories) one story frame the other normal logs board ruff  lower room sealed with board fashion floor  mill with board water wheel 14 ft in diameter and in shot 8 ft cage wheel good trunnel head and band wheel   100 ft race 25 ft down logs and planks 

One cotton House 14’ – 14 1 st split logs board ruff   lined with board fashion floor 

One cotton Prep & sew & swas (saws) all new and in good order1

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The cotton gin complex was located on the stream coming from Owl’s Hollow. Today, the new US 411 4 lanes cover the location. 500 yards from the cove to US 411 North. Today Spring Avenue off of US 411 North, going into Owl’s Hollow runs parallel to the stream. The stream creates the cove through Shinbone Ridge. The proof is provided in a document for the purchase of two improvements. These two improvements were purchased by David Gage for William Lasley (son of James Lasley) and William Brock. Purchased 26 November 1835. It seems William Lasley and William Brock never paid Gage. (This document is very hard to read.) James Lasley purchased the improvements on 19 June 1837. This will become an issue between father and son.

. . . improvement lying in Ratliff’s Valley about four or five hundred yards north of Lasley’s mill consisting of a dwelling house, smoke house, corn crib, horse lot & one field northeast of said building containing ten acres more of less . . .3

The issue is shown in the documents below.

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William Lasley went after this improvement. He paid David Gage. Here is the copy of the documents. I wonder who really paid who?

5. This note presents where James Lasley’s house was located. “. . . being in a cove one mile from your house . . ” It is just over one mile to the ferry on the Coosa River. His house was 300 to 400 yards before you get to the ferry landing.

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It is unknown as to the outcome of this. The claim by James Lasley is missing at least two pages. Are these improvements on those pages? We will never know unless those pages are found. They are not with these pages in the National Archives.

Store Book, Housing Complex

This is the mill and cotton gin complex on the property. The house was near the Coosa River and the ferry. There are a lot of structures involved with the home place. To help us certify the location for this farm and ferry, we can see that Mr. Lasley also filed a claim for his “store books” on the 22nd of March 1842.  The store or trading post was near his home, but on the main road.

This claim lists the appraisal amounts for notes owned to Lasley with the store. Has appraisal amounts for the store goods and a new cotton gin. It states improvements made “after 23 May 1836.” On this claim are a house, Kitchen, smokehouse, and 50 acres of cleared river bottom cleared in 1836.  It lists other acres of various sizes, stock, and various farm equipment. The total on this claim is $6,469.00. (In 2025 with inflation calculated the claim is $255,585. Total of both claims is $580,470. This does not include the land value.)

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Conclusion

I wanted to post the claim by James Lasley with the witnesses’ notes. This way, you can read them as is. These are in good condition. I know this is cursive dip ink scroll writing. You have to read these closely. He names names. Who are these white men, Josiah Harper, William Lay, Pollard, James Street, John H. Garrett, George Biddy, and Madison Gage? If you read closely, you can find out the exact day that the US troops came to his house. They forcibly marched him and his family to Fort Payne, a stockade. The city of Fort Payne, Alabama, got its name from the stockade. It was the launching point for detachments of the Trail of Tears. The witnesses: Turner, son of Boot. Margaret (Peggy Coats) is James Lasley’s daughter and the wife of Gideon Coats, namesake of Coats’ Bend. More on that in its own post.

I will continue this in the next post on where this is and how we know. I will explain how and what the community is today. This will help explain who the white men are.

  1. Copy of 1842 James Lasley Claim, National Archives, Washington DC, Record Group (RG)75 Bureau of Indian Affairs, Entry (E) #224, Volume 25, pages; 96, 97, 99, 100, Copy from Michael Wren’s personal collection. ↩︎
  2. Ibid, page 97 ↩︎
  3. RG 75 Bureau of Indian Affairs, E #236, images 435-438, Copy from Michael Wren’s personal collection ↩︎
  4. Ibid image 437 ↩︎
  5. Ibid images 443 ↩︎
  6. Ibid image 445 ↩︎
  7. Copy of 1842 James Lasley Claim, National Archives, Washington DC, Record Group (RG)75 Bureau of Indian Affairs, Entry (E) #224, Volume 25, pages; 96, 97, 99, 100, Copy from Michael Wren’s personal collection ↩︎

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